People have been asking me about comments in a recent video by Sabine Hossenfelder. I have not watched it, but the quote I’m asked about is “the higher the uncertainty of the data, the better MOND seems to work” with the implication that this might mean that MOND is a systematic artifact of data interpretation. I believe, because they consulted me about it, that the origin of this claim emerged from recent work by Sabine’s student Maria Khelashvili on fitting the SPARC data.
Let me address the point about data interpretation first. Fitting the SPARC data had exactly nothing to do with attracting my attention to MOND. Detailed MOND fits to these data are not particularly important in the overall scheme of these things as I’ll discuss in excruciating detail below. Indeed, these data didn’t even exist until relatively recently.
It may, at this juncture in time, surprise some readers to learn that I was once a strong advocate for cold dark matter. I was, like many of its current advocates, rather derisive of alternatives, the most prominent at the time being baryonic dark matter. What attracted my attention to MOND was that it made a priori predictions that were corroborated, quite unexpectedly, in my data for low surface brightness galaxies. These results were surprising in terms of dark matter then and to this day remain difficult to understand. After a lot of struggle to save dark matter, I realized that the best we could hope to do with dark matter was to contrive a model that reproduced after the fact what MOND had predicted a priori. That can never be satisfactory.
So – I changed my mind. I admitted that I had been wrong to be so completely sure that the solution to the missing mass problem had to be some new form of non-baryonic dark matter. It was not easy to accept this possibility. It required lengthy and tremendous effort to admit that Milgrom had got right something that the rest of us had got wrong. But he had – his predictions came true, so what was I supposed to say? That he was wrong?
Perhaps I am wrong to take MOND seriously? I would love to be able to honestly say it is wrong so I can stop having this argument over and over. I’ve stipulated the conditions whereby I would change my mind to again believe that dark matter is indeed the better option. These conditions have not been met. Few dark matter advocates have answered the challenge to stipulate what could change their minds.
People seem to have become obsessed with making fits to data. That’s great, but it is not fundamental. Making a priori predictions is fundamental, and has nothing to do with fitting data. By construction, the prediction comes before the data. Perhaps this is one way to distinguish between incremental and revolutionary science. Fitting data is incremental science that seeks the best version of an accepted paradigm. Successful predictions are the hallmark of revolutionary science that make one take notice and say, hey, maybe something entirely different is going on.
One of the predictions of MOND is that the RAR should exist. It was not expected in dark matter. As a quick review of the history, here is the RAR as it was known in 2004 and now (as of 2016):

The big improvement provided by SPARC was a uniform estimate of the stellar mass surface density of galaxies based on Spitzer near-infrared data. These are what are used to construct the x-axis: gbar is what Newton predicts for the observed mass distribution. SPARC was a vast improvement over the optical data we had previously, to the point that the intrinsic scatter is negligibly small: the observed scatter can be attributed to the various uncertainties and the expected scatter in stellar mass-to-light ratios. The latter never goes away, but did turn out to be at the low end of the range we expected. It could easily have looked worse, as it did in 2004, even if the underlying physical relation was perfect.
Negligibly small intrinsic scatter is the best one can hope to find. The issue now is the fit quality to individual galaxies (not just the group plot above). We already know MOND fits rotation curve data. The claim that appears in Dr. Hossenfelder’s video boils down to dark matter providing better fits. This would be important if it told us something about nature. It does not. All it teaches us about is the hazards of fitting data for which the errors are not well behaved.
While SPARC provides a robust estimate of gbar, gobs is based on a heterogeneous set of rotation curves drawn from a literature spanning decades. The error bars on these rotation curves have not been estimated in a uniform way, so we cannot blindly fit the data with our favorite software tool and expect that to teach us something about physical reality. I find myself having to say this to physicists over and over and over and over and over again: you cannot trust astronomical error bars to behave as Gaussian random variables the way one would like and expect in a controlled laboratory setting.
Astronomy is not conducted in a controlled laboratory. It is an observational science. We cannot put the entire universe in a box and control all the variables. We can hope to improve the data and approach this ideal, but right now we’re nowhere near it. These fitting analyses assume that we are.
Screw it. I really am sick of explaining this over and over, so I’m just going to cut & paste verbatim what I told Hossenfelder & Khelashvili by email when they asked. This is not the first time I’ve written an email like this, and I’m sure it won’t be the last.
Excruciating details: what I said to Hossenfelder & Khelashvili about the perils of rotation curve fitting on 22 September 2023 in response for their request for comments on the draft of the relevant paper:
First, the work of Desmond is a good place to look for an opinion independent of mine.
Second, in my experience, the fit quality you find is what I’ve found before: DM halos with a constant density core consistently give the best fits in terms of chi^2, then MOND, then NFW. The success of cored DM halos happens because it is an extremely flexible fitting function: the core radius and core density can be traded off to fit any dog’s leg, and is highly degenerate with the stellar M*/L. NFW works less well because it has a less flexible shape. But both work because they have more parameters [than MOND].
Third, statistics will not save us here. I once hoped that the BIC would sort this out, but having gone down that road, I believe the BIC does not penalize models sufficiently for adding free parameters. You allude to this at the end of section 3.2. When you go from MOND (with fixed a0 it has only one parameter, M*/L, to fit to account for everything) to a dark matter halo (which has at a minimum 3 parameters: M*/L plus two to describe the halo) then you gain an enormous amount of freedom – the volume of possible parameter space grows enormously. But the BIC just says if you had 20 degrees of freedom before, now you have 22. That does not remotely represent the amount of flexibility that represents: some free parameters are more equal than others. MOND fits and DM halo fits are not the same beast; we can’t compare them this way any more than we can compare apples and snails.
Worse, to do this right requires that the uncertainties be real random errors. They are not. SPARC provides homogeneous mass models based on near-IR observations of the stellar mass distribution. Those should be OK to the extent that near-IR light == stellar mass. That is a decent mapping, but not perfect. Consequently, we expect the occasional galaxy to misbehave. UGC 128 is a case where the MOND fit was great with optical data then became terrible with near-IR data. The absolute difference in the data are not great, but in terms of the formal chi^2 it is. So is that a failure of the model, or of the data to represent what we want it to represent?
This happens all the time in astronomy. Here, we want to know the circular velocity of a test particle in the gravitational potential predicted by the baryonic mass distribution. We never measure either of those quantities. What we measure is the (i) stellar light distribution and the (ii) Doppler velocities of gas. We assume we can map stellar light to stellar mass and Doppler velocity to orbital speed, but no mass model is perfect, nor is any patch of observed gas guaranteed to be on a purely circular orbit. These are known unknowns: uncertainties that we know are real but we cannot easily quantify. These assumptions that we have to make to do the analysis dominate over the random errors in many cases. We also assume that galaxies are in dynamical equilibrium, but 20% of spirals show gross side-to-side asymmetries, and at least 50% mild ones. So what is the circular motion in those cases? (F579-1 is a good example)
While SPARC is homogeneous in its photometry, it is extremely heterogeneous in its rotation curve measurements. We’re working on fixing that, but it’ll take a while. Consequently, as you note, some galaxies have little constraining power while others appear to have lots. That’s because many of the rotation curve velocity uncertainties are either grossly over or underestimated. To see this, plot the cumulative distribution of chi^2 for any of your models (or see the CDF published by Li et al 2018 for the RAR and Li et al 2020 for dark matter halos of many flavors. So many, I can’t recall how many CDF we published.) Anyway, for a good model, chi^2 is always close to one, so the CDF should go up sharply and reach one quickly – there shouldn’t be many cases with very low chi^2 or very high chi^2. Unfortunately, rotation curve data do not do this for any type of model. There are always way too many cases with chi^2 << 1 and also too many with chi^2 >> 1. One might conclude that all models are unacceptable – or that the error bars are Messed Up. I think the second option is the case. If so, then this sort of analysis will always have the power to mislead.

A key thing to watch out for is the outsized effects of a few points with tiny error bars. Among galaxies with high chi^2, what often happens is that there is one point with a tiny error bar that does not agree with any of the rest of the data for any smoothly continuous rotation curve. Fitting programs penalize a model for missing this point by many sigma, so will do anything they can to make it better. So what happens is that if you let a0 vary with a flat prior, it will got to some very silly values in order to buy a tiny improvement in chi^2. Formally, that’s a better fit, so you say OK, a0 has to vary. But if you plot the fitted RCs with fixed and variable a0, you will be hard pressed to see the difference. Chi^2 is different, sure, but both will have chi^2 >> 1, so a lousy fit either way, and we haven’t really gained anything meaningful from allowing for the greater fitting freedom. Really it is just that one point that is Wrong even though it has a tiny error bar – which you can see relative to the other points, never mind the model. Dark matter halos have more flexibility from the beginning, so this is less obvious for them even though the same thing happens.
So that’s another big point – what is the prior for a dark matter halo? [Your] Table 1 allows V200 and C200 to be pretty much anything. So yes, you will find a fit from that range. For Burkert halos, there is no prior, since these do not emerge from any theory – they’re just a flexible French curve. For NFW halos, there is a prior from cosmology – see McGaugh et al (2007) among a zillion other possible references, including Li et al (2020). In any[L]CDM cosmology, the parameters V200 and C200 correlate – they are not independent. So a reasonable prior would be a Gaussian in log(C200) at a given V200 as specified by some simulation (Macio et al; see Li et al 2020). Another prior is how V200 (or M200) relates to the observed baryonic mass (or stellar mass). This one is pretty dodgy. Originally, we expected a fixed ratio between baryonic and dark mass. So when I did this kind of analysis in the ’90s, I found NFW flunked hard compared to MOND. (I didn’t know about the BIC then.) Galaxy DM halos simply do not look like NFW halos that form in LCDM and host galaxies with a few percent of their mass in the luminous disk even though this was the standard model for many years (Mo, Mao, & White 1998). If we drop the assumption that luminous galaxies are always a fixed fraction of their dark matter halos, then better fits can be obtained. I suspect your uniform prior fits have halo masses all over the place; they probably don’t correlate well with the baryonic mass, nor are their C and V200 parameters likely to correlate as they are predicted to do. You could apply the expected mass-concentration and stellar mass-halo mass relations as priors, then NFW will come off worse in your analysis because you’ve restricted them to where they ought to live.
So, as you say – it all comes down to the prior.
Even applying a stellar mass-halo mass relation from abundance matching isn’t really independent information, though that’s the best you can hope to do. But I was saying 20+ years ago that fixed mass ratios wouldn’t work, but nobody then wanted to abandon that obvious assumption. Since then, they’ve been forced to do so. But there is no good physical reason for it (feedback is the deus ex machina of all problems in the field), what happened is that the data forced us to drop the obvious assumption. Data including kinematic data (McGaugh et al 2010). So adopting a modern stellar mass-halo mass relation will give you a stronger prior than a uniform prior, but that choice has already been informed by the kinematic data that you’re trying to fit. How do we properly penalize the model for cheating about its “prior” by peaking at past data?
So, as you say – it all comes down to the prior. I think it would be important here to better constrain the priors on the DM halo fits. Li et al (2020) discuss this. Even then we’re not done, because galaxy formation modifies the form of the halo function we’re fitting. They shouldn’t end up as NFW even if they start out that way – see Li et al 2022a & b. Those papers consider the inevitable effects of adiabatic compression, but not of feedback. If feedback really has the effects on DM halos that is frequently advertised, then neither NFW or Burkert are appropriate fitting functions – they’re not what LCDM+feedback predicts. Good luck extracting a legitimate prediction from simulations, though. So we’re stuck doing what you’re trying to do: adopt some functional form to represent the DM halo, and see what fits. What you’ve done here agrees with my experience: cored DM halos work best. But they don’t represent an LCDM prediction, or any other broader theory, so – so what?
Another detail to be wary of – the radial range over which the RC data constrain the DM halo fit is often rather limited compared to the size of the halo. To complicate matters further, the inner regions are often star-dominated, so there is not much of a handle on DM from where the data are best, at least beyond many galaxies preferring not to have a cusp since the stars already get the job done at small R. So, one ends up with V_DM(R) constrained from 3% to 10% of the virial radius, or something like that. V200 and C200 are defined at the notional virial radius, so there are many combinations of these parameters that might adequately fit the observed range while being quite different elsewhere. Even worse, NFW halos are pretty self-similar – there are combinations of (C200,V200) that are highly degenerate, so you can’t really tell the difference between them even with excellent data – the confidence contours look like bananas in C200-V200 space, with low C/high V often being as good as high C/low V. Even even even worse is that the observed V_DM(R) is often approximately a straight line. Any function looks like a straight line if you stretch it out enough. Consequently, the fits to LSB galaxies often tend to absurdly low C and high V200: NFW never looks like a straight line, but it does if you blow it up enough. So one ends up inferring that the halo masses of tiny galaxies are nearly as big as those of huge galaxies, or more so! My favorite example was NGC 3109, a tiny dwarf on the edge of the Local Group. A straight NFW fit suggests that the halo of this one little galaxy weighs more than the entire Local Group, M31 + MW + everything else combined. This is the sort of absurd result that comes from fitting the NFW halo form to a limited radial range of data.
I don’t know that this helps you much, but you see a few of the concerns.
































